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3azy
post Oct 29 2009, 05:34 PM
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QUOTE (Loj @ Oct 29 2009, 01:56 PM) *
It didn't back in Vanilla, but now it does.

With around 3k AP your eviscerates should be hitting top end for around 3.2k.

But like others have said, do rogues really need that much more damage? That's like me complaining that my Steady Shot only does 350 on Cloth.


are u fckin retarded?!?!?!? ever played a rogue???! 3k eviscerate,i did this in bc ..lol....


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post Oct 29 2009, 07:49 PM
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It is because of the mentally incapacitated Rogue population here:
QUOTE (3azy @ Oct 29 2009, 12:34 PM) *
are u fckin retarded?!?!?!? ever played a rogue???! 3k eviscerate,i did this in bc ..lol....


that my post was.. limited.

No, your rogue didn't hit a 3k eviscerate in TBC. No, that's not under estimating. That's the fucking math.

Now, before more morons try to flame it, look at the fucking math then whine. smile.gif

Thanks.


P.S. (3k ap will produce a 3.2k top end eviscerate, which is pretty powerful for how low the AP is and not including any crits or crit multipliers.)

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post Oct 29 2009, 07:51 PM
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[1977 + AP * 0.15]-[2231 + AP * 0.35]

For 5 points of course. Non-improved.


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post Oct 29 2009, 07:56 PM
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QUOTE (Kursh @ Oct 29 2009, 03:51 PM) *
[1977 + AP * 0.15]-[2231 + AP * 0.35]

For 5 points of course. Non-improved.


So the high end with 3k ap would be:

2231 + 3000 *.35 =

2231 + 1035 = 3266


God I love math. Thank you Kursh, for linking the ability.
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post Oct 29 2009, 08:45 PM
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QUOTE (Loj @ Oct 29 2009, 12:56 PM) *
So the high end with 3k ap would be:

2231 + 3000 *.35 =

2231 + 1035 = 3266


God I love math. Thank you Kursh, for linking the ability.

Loj are you retarded?

Based off 3000 AP
2427 - 3281 Unmitigated damage.. then add Improved Eviscerate and you get
[3281 * 1.2 = ] 3927 top-damage non-crit
NON CRIT IS THE KEYWORD

Rogues are critting for less than the non-crit damage.

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post Oct 29 2009, 10:36 PM
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QUOTE (Rekless @ Oct 29 2009, 09:45 PM) *
Loj are you retarded?

Based off 3000 AP
2427 - 3281 Unmitigated damage.. then add Improved Eviscerate and you get
[3281 * 1.2 = ] 3927 top-damage non-crit
NON CRIT IS THE KEYWORD

Rogues are critting for less than the non-crit damage.

KTHX

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post Oct 29 2009, 11:16 PM
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QUOTE (Loj @ Oct 29 2009, 02:19 PM) *
5.4k AP

Screenshot nao.


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post Oct 30 2009, 12:00 AM
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QUOTE (LampaN @ Oct 29 2009, 10:36 PM) *
Holy shit, Rekless is plowing trough it all! Solving all our problems! Optical junior? rolleyes.gif


my sarcasm detector seems to be malfunctioning

if sarcasm:
wow you're bad at sarcasm

if not:
you realize he just copied and pasted the first wowhead comment for eviscerate, right?
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post Oct 30 2009, 04:43 AM
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QUOTE (Deject3d @ Oct 29 2009, 05:00 PM) *
my sarcasm detector seems to be malfunctioning

if sarcasm:
wow you're bad at sarcasm

if not:
you realize he just copied and pasted the first wowhead comment for eviscerate, right?

which makes it even funnier
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post Oct 30 2009, 06:46 AM
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lol yea evis is totaly fucked :<

trained to iceblock 5cp cb evis for ages on retail and u dont even need it here lmao


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post Oct 31 2009, 03:49 AM
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QUOTE (Nhiyla @ Oct 29 2009, 11:46 PM) *
lol yea evis is totaly fucked :<

trained to iceblock 5cp cb evis for ages on retail and u dont even need it here lmao



dude you should teach me how to do this


anyways
we need a major fix on the damage cause it seems like it is not scaling w/ AP at all


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@ Zukiros : We dont want him banned from events because he wins them all, as a matter of fact he never won vs one of my teams. He is nowhere near "OP" aswell. Its because he acts like a douchebag 99.9% of the time.


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post Oct 31 2009, 03:53 AM
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Just use rupture.


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post Oct 31 2009, 04:01 AM
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i know but you don't want them to be running around w/ 1000 hp and have a bleed on them and have the potential of being healed. you want to finish that ho


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@ Zukiros : We dont want him banned from events because he wins them all, as a matter of fact he never won vs one of my teams. He is nowhere near "OP" aswell. Its because he acts like a douchebag 99.9% of the time.


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post Oct 31 2009, 04:04 AM
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Kill their healer.


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post Nov 1 2009, 07:35 AM
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i rarly play rogue and i say it needs fixing.... its a great move when target is on low hp, cold blood plus 5pt eviscerate (pardon my spelling, and tbh.. im not sure if its spelled wrong :X)


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post Nov 1 2009, 08:46 PM
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QUOTE (Lolistab @ Oct 31 2009, 04:53 AM) *
Just use rupture.


actually, use slice and dice.


it increases your damage as well as attack speed for some reason smile.gif
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post Nov 1 2009, 10:14 PM
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QUOTE (Deject3d @ Nov 1 2009, 12:46 PM) *
actually, use slice and dice.


it increases your damage as well as attack speed for some reason smile.gif



you mean it increases your attack speed but increases your damage for some reason?

you said it backwards


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@ Zukiros : We dont want him banned from events because he wins them all, as a matter of fact he never won vs one of my teams. He is nowhere near "OP" aswell. Its because he acts like a douchebag 99.9% of the time.


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post Nov 1 2009, 11:24 PM
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QUOTE (HadokanSF @ Oct 30 2009, 08:01 PM) *
you want to finish that ho


Lul. I also support this thread.


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post Nov 2 2009, 01:11 AM
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QUOTE (Lolistab @ Oct 30 2009, 09:04 PM) *
Kill their healer.

Then the other person will kill you while you are burning through heals.
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post Nov 2 2009, 02:26 AM
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QUOTE (HadokanSF @ Nov 1 2009, 10:14 PM) *
you mean it increases your attack speed but increases your damage for some reason?

you said it backwards


slice and dice is supposed to:

* increase attack speed

currently, slice and dice:

* increases attack speed
* increases damage done by unknown amount (7k -> 10k mutilates)

i'm not sure how i said it backwards.
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