All priest working and non-working spells/talents, By kazzy and inris Options

[kazzy]

Hello,

Me and inris had decided to test all talents and spells for priest to see what works and what doesnt.
The following list will show you this.

If you have any further changes that should be applied to the list, please state it on the thread.

Green=Working talent or spell
Red=Not working talent or spell
Orange=Slightly Works but still has a problem. I also stated next to the spell of whats not working with it.

Discipline Talent Tree
Unbreakable Will
Twin Discipline
Silent Resolve -Unable to test threat reduction.
Improved inner fire
Improved power word Fortitude
Martyrdom
Improved power word shield
Inner Focus-This talent dispels with anything the caster casts. Such as a buff, riding mount, etc.
Meditation
Absolution
Mental Agility
Improved Mana Burn
Mental Strength
Focused Power
Enlightment
Focused Will
Power Infusion
Reflective Shield
Renewed Hope
Rapture
Aspiration
Divine Aegis-This spell also sometimes gives the enemy the shield, i think it happens when the caster crits with holy nova or something like that but im not really sure.
Pain Suppression
Grace-Penance does not proc a grace buff on each of the penance's tick. Instead you get 1 each time you cast penance instead of 3. The talent proc's however, it doesnt increase the amount of healing done to the target.
Borrowed Time
Penance-The ticks are unaffected by haste resulting in slower channel times. This spell is supposed to have a 40 yard heal range and a 30 yard damage range. Yet, the damage range is applied all the time, regardless if your healing or damaging the person. Also penance can heal opposite factions if you target an enemy and heal yourself, it will cause the first tick to heal the caster and the other two ticks to heal the enemy target.


Holy Talent Tree
Healing Focus
Improved Renew
Holy Specialization
Spell warding
Divine Fury
Desperate Prayer
Blessed Recovery
Inspiration-This spell give the enemy the proc when the caster crits with holy nova.
Holy Reach
Improved Healing
Searing Light
Healing Prayers
Spirit of Redemption-This talent does not reduce mana cost of spells to 0 when in spirit form.
Spiritual Guidance-This talent does not increase/decrease your spell power when you equip/unequip gear that effects your total spirit or gain/loose a buff that effects your total spirit. You have to re-spec each time for it to work.
Surge of light
Spiritual Healing
Holy Concentration-This talent proc's with any spell crit casted instead of flash heal and the one specified.
Lightwell
Blessed resilience
Empowered healing
Body and Soul-This spell does not cure poison. It also does not give you give the 60 percent speed when you already have the shield on you and you cast another one. Also it gives 60 percent speed when shield is dispelled.
Serendipity
Circle of healing-The talent does not work when you are not in a group/raid. The talent also only works on the caster...the 15 yard restriction applies to the caster all the time, meaning if you wanted to heal a warrior 35 yards away from you with Circle of Healing, it wouldn't.
Test of faith
Empowered Renew-This talent only gives 42 hp from the instant renew at the start. It should be doing more.
Divine Providence
Guardian Sprit-The talent does not give the 50 percent health back when you will die also it gets dispelled whenever the person with guardian spirit takes damage.

Shadow Talent Tree
Spirit Tap
Improved Spirit Tap
Darkness
Shadow Affinity-Threat Reduction cannot be tested
Improved Shadow word Pain
Shadow Focus
Improved Psychic Scream
Improved Mind Blast
Mind Flay
Veiled Shadows
Shadow Reach
Shadow Weaving-It procs but has no effect.
Silence
Vampiric Embrace
Improved Vampiric Embrace
Focused Mind
Mind Melt
Improved Devouring Plague
Shadowform-The talent does not allow the damage over time spells to critically hit.
Improved Shadowform
Shadow Power
Misery-The talent does not allow mind flay/mind blast/mind sear to get 5/10/15 percent more spell power.
Psychic Horror- The talent does not disarm the target.
Vampiric Touch-The talent does not deal damage to the target that has dispelled it.
Pain and suffering- The talent does not reduce damage the caster takes from shadow word death.
Twisted Faith- This talent does not increase your mind flay/mind blast damage dealt. Also the spell power increase with spirit has the same problem similar to the ''Spiritual Guidance'' talent in the holy tree. See that talent for details on whats wrong with it, same problems go with this.
Dispersion

Problems with Priest Discipline spells
1. Mass dispell= This spell is not removing debuffs instead it is only removing buffs.
2. Power word shield= This spell is not stacking with spell power to increase amount absorbed, thats why it absorbs little damage.
3. Levitate= This spell is not lifting the caster high above the ground as it should.
4. Prayer of fortitude=The spell only gives the buff to all party members instead of party/raid members.
5. Prayer of Spirit=This spell only gives the buff to all party members instead of party/raid members.
6. Mass Dispell= This spell does not remove the buffs that are normally undispellable. It should be removing iceblock/divine shield.

Problems with Priest Holy spells
1. Prayer of Mending= The spell is healing too little, not stacking with spell power, also it only gives 1 charge but it should give 5.
2. Divine Hymn= This spell is healing everyone in range including opposite factions instead of healing nearby 3 raid members only. Also it only works when the caster targets himself and uses the spell.
3. Hymn of Hope= This spell does not increase anyone's maximum mana by 20 percent. This spell does not restore mana to the caster instead it restores it to all nearby people in range including opposite factions, instead of just giving the caster and nearby 3 raid members the increase max mana and mana restore. The spell only works when the caster target himself and casts it.

Problems with Priest Shadow spells
1. Mind control= It has been disabled so cannot be used.
2. Mind sear= It is not stacking with spell power, thats why it is dealing too low damage.
3. Shadowfiend= The creature is only attacking opposite faction targets, so it does not attack same faction targets in duels/arenas. The shadowfiend cant be controlled as a pet. It doesnt have its unique abilites such as shadow crawl, defensive, aggresive and passive.
4. Prayer of shadow=This spell only gives the buff to party members instead of party/raid members.
5. Psychic Scream=This spell does not interupt channeling spells such as evocation, penance, etc.

Hope this helps you optical.

Best regards,

Kazzy and Inris

[bigbac]

Freaking nub told ya on SexDevil 3 times that shadowform also does not allow dots to crit like biggest bug of all and you forgot it

[kazzy]

ur the nub.

read what i wrote after shadowform carefully.

''Does not allow dots to be critcally hit.''

SEEE.

[zerox13]

Wonderful Thread Kazzy.
1 Word: WONDERFUL

You don't just eventing... You also detect ROC's bug

-Thanks

-Zerox13

[MONOCHROME]

Great thread glad to see more people doing full class bug lists

[bigbac]

I just hope opti does few fixes in here i really want that i can crit with dots i would get abit op then

[kazzy]

yeah.

i care about my class ALOTTTTTTTT.

also it makes life for opti easier and also ill be giving links for each of the spells to give details of what they should actually do.
Just incase my details are not very clear.

thanks and hopes this helps you opti

best regards,

kazzy

[Icelina]

Stickied.

[Mexitank]

Awesome thread, I was thinking of addressing the problems of holy priests last night, but you did it for me! Good work all around.

[kazzy]

thanks =]

i also got help from inris.
so we both really did this and test to see what spells/talents works and what doesnt.

[bigbac]

Zomg mah name is there!

[kazzy]

dont act stupid -.-

[Gnomerizer]

Some stuff I'd like to add, if you dont mind

Disc tree
Improved Flash Heal: half works: decreases mana cost but doesnt increase crit chance (afaik, its difficult to test)

Grace: doesnt work: Gives the buff, but doesnt increase healing (well, it sure does nothing with renew ticks, and my flash heals do the same 3.6-3.7k-ish heals with and without buff, though with 3 stacks i think it should do 4k-ish heals), also only affects the caster (if self-heal), though as I understand it should affect the target.

Holy tree
Blessed Recovery: Half working: "Additional critical hits taken during the effect increase the healing received." -this part doesnt work.

Spirit of Redemption: half working: spells still cost mana when in spirit form, also you dont loose 50s when you die with this.

Surge of Light: works, but sometimes (actually quite often) double procs.

Holy Concentration: procs with any spell crit, not only with flash heal and the ones specified.



oh btw, pls fix Body and soul, most important for my priest atm.^^

[Mexitank]

If Body and soul worked for holy, I would jizz in my pants. It is the one talent that will save us from the OP warriors and pallys, not to mention help us fend off rogues.

[Xanty]

someone is working to fix all the shadow priest bug?? It's very very bugged

[Gnomerizer]

Btw I just tested this, Spiritual Guidance does scale with buffs and gear, (or at least spirit buff), it just won't show in the menu. My renew ticks for like 3 more health points when I'm buffed with spirit and I cant find anything other reason it should do that xcept that Spiritual Guidance works.

[Sun]

bugged

[Porphyriel]

Inner Focus is listed as red / not working.

Tested it out and I can confirm it works. The 0 mana cost works and I do seem to crit more with it up (hard to test that part, but I do notice more crits). Turn that one to functioning in the list, imo.

[Akunaba]

WTB working rapture

[kazzy]

Thread updated.

Further updates will be done soon.

[Porphyriel]

I would list inner focus as green, functioning. I tend to crit more often when I use it. I can't verify 25% without casting numerous tests (which is really impossible considering the cooldown). But I'm happy with it.

[lancy1214]

In addition, I'd also add that:
-Prayer of Spirit (Discipline) does not affect the entire raid
-Prayer of Shadow Protection (Shadow) does not affect the entire raid
-Circle of Healing (Holy) only works on you...the 15 yard restriction applies to you all the time, meaning if you wanted to heal a warrior 35 yards away from you with Circle of Healing, it wouldn't (Thats confusing but I hope you understood what I meant)
-Penance (Discipline): The ticks are unaffected by haste resulting in slower channel times
-In general, there's a plaguing bug that messes with the ranges of healing spells. Sometimes the spell will successfully cast yet its effects wont actually go off on the target. I've noticed in particular that when you are healing someone at the extreme 40 yard range, your healing spells will never go off on their targets.

[SP/UAW]

Is not Shadow Power actually working!? uhm u.u that is one of the most important talents of the Shadow tree, I'd like a fix for this talent beside the dot crits plx =(

[kazzy]

Thread updated.
Thanks for your replies.

Further updates will be done later.

[lancy1214]

Thanks Kazzy and I forgot to mention other slight bugs:
-Penance (Discipline) is supposed to have a 40 yard heal range and a 30 yard damage range. Yet, the damage range is applied all the time, regardless if your healing or damaging the person.
-Prayer of Mending (Holy) is supposed to have 5 charges, not 3 like you posted
-Shadowfiend (Shadow) can't be controlled as a pet; it doesn't have its unique abilities like Shadow crawl, defensive, aggressive, passive.

[Porphyriel]

The shadowfiend has another concern. If the enemy is the same faction as you then it won't attack at all. Sucks in FFA and especially in arenas. Might be a more general bug tho - because I noticed in 2v2 arenas that my penance was HEALING an enemy frost mage's elemental. More likely its one bug of enemy recognition that would solve several probs.

[Akunaba]

because I noticed in 2v2 arenas that my penance was HEALING an enemy frost mage's elemental.

Ye I can confirm that healing part. If u use selfcast key while popping Penance, the first missile hits you but the other 2 missiles hit your target and healing them, doesn't matter if they are Horde/Alliance or friendly/hostile.
Solved this problem with a macro but it makes me lose my target =/

[WICKEDSICK]

Wow holy shit. Nice work on this... can you make one for hunters aswell?? I know a few spells not working..

[kazzy]

thank you for your posts i appreciate it.

thread updated.

further updates will be added soon.

[Porphyriel]

Any priests getting a 'stuck in combat' bug, wayyyyyyyy after you should be?
Been noticing it lately and it happens often. I'll be a minute or FOUR out of combat and i cant eat, drink, mount up or even use my votestone. It's very crippling, and the not being able to drink costs games in arenas =/

any other priests getting this? I think it's a bug with a spell that might cause this, not sure, trying to identify it but ;alkdjs;klajsdf anyone else getting 'stuck in combat' bug? thx

[Kursh]

Any priests getting a 'stuck in combat' bug, wayyyyyyyy after you should be?
Been noticing it lately and it happens often. I'll be a minute or FOUR out of combat and i cant eat, drink, mount up or even use my votestone. It's very crippling, and the not being able to drink costs games in arenas =/

any other priests getting this? I think it's a bug with a spell that might cause this, not sure, trying to identify it but ;alkdjs;klajsdf anyone else getting 'stuck in combat' bug? thx

its a general bug that happens to every healer / dotter.

[sinnix]

I would also like to point out, that the talent "Shadow affinity" says "Threat level cannot me tested" there is another action affected by this talent, when your Shadow word: Pain And/or Vampiric touch is dispelled, you will gain 15% of your base mana. this is important because paladins (one of the most used classes on RoC) and priests can just dispell all your debuffs, and you will go oom in a matter of seconds if you try to re-apply them. This needs to be fixed. its an important shadow talent.

[Porphyriel]

Was in an arena fight and the shadowfiend pet licked the face of my enemy like a friendly dog, instead of attacking and leeching mana. Fuck that's a crippling bug.

[Loliheal]

Was in an arena fight and the shadowfiend pet licked the face of my enemy like a friendly dog, instead of attacking and leeching mana. Fuck that's a crippling bug.

Oh yea, i know how u feel... But Opt will fix all this this when he gets the time

[Porphyriel]

I know. Opti is the man. Just so crippling at times

[Gnomerizer]

One of the crucial issues is Mass dispel. As I never played retail so I never realized how powerful it is, cos it should remove pally bubble and ice block, and here it doesnt. Actually i dont know if it does anything at all.

[Akunaba]

One of the crucial issues is Mass dispel. As I never played retail so I never realized how powerful it is, cos it should remove pally bubble and ice block, and here it doesnt. Actually i dont know if it does anything at all.

Ye mass dispell is bugged pretty badly, bubble is untouchable but u can dispell ice blocks with normal dispell

[Gnomerizer]

Hot new updates in fixes, so I'll update here what i found with new stuff

Body and Soul: Increases Speeed! (Finally!!!) BUT: It also procs when shield fades. So if u put shield up and remove it after 3 sec, u get the 60% speed for 6 sec, and theres like 3-4 sec remaining from ur weakened soul before u can rebuff shield, so... ur speedy for 6 sec and normal for 3, quite op i guess...

Empowered Renew: Instantly heals me for 42 points lawls. At least it does something, the math should be redone and it should be ok.

[kazzy]

Due to the server update on 17th October 2009. There are several fixes that have been applied.

I have updated the forums with those fixes. Also wrote the body and soul problem that it procs after shield is dispelled.
So yeah pretty much OP.

Further updates will be done soon.

Best regards,
Kazzy

[Mexitank]

Well another problem with body and soul, is yes it also procs when the shield fades, but it also won't proc if you currently have the shield on you. Is it supposed to be like that? Or is it you only get the proc when you gain a shield, not refreshing your shield?

[Apathylol]

Fade does remove all impairing effects in Shadowform.

Mind flay doesn't work.

[Mexitank]

Body and Soul also does not cure poisons in addition to diseases.

[kazzy]

Thread updated.

Updates included-
1. Inner focus=Dispels with anything cast such as buffs and riding mount.
2. Psychic Scream=Does not interupt spells such as evocation or penance.
3. Improved Shadowform=Now works.
4. Body and soul=Only procs when power word shield is dispelled instead of when its cast. Also does not remove poison.

Further updates will be done soon.
Thanks for your support and help.

Best regards,
Kazzy

[thespion]

Just to add:
inner focus gets removed even if you dont cast something seems like its if anything happens to you, IE renew tick ect.

Shadow fiend only attacks opposite fraction(known)

Not many people know but borrowed time only fades after casting certain spells but not for things like mana burn, simple trick: power infusion shield some 1 mana burn for like 0.9 sec(or less) cast shield on another guy continue. Any way this isnt that great because we usually get focused in arena and simply cant do this often. (if this gets fixed before hyms/shadow fiend/prayer of mending then i quit, not that it matters in the greater scale but fixing a very small advantage before fixing cripply disadvantages isnt right.)

Prayer of mending can be cast on 2 people not just 1.

there is no dispel resistance on pain suppression.

[Mexitank]

Prayer of mending can be cast on 2 people not just 1.

Prayer of mending can be cast on however many people you want, I think. It makes it fun in bgs.

[t_gab_Y]

im a priest my self in ROC... and i do alot of 2v2 rated... and i get annoyed because we loose the game because of the spells thats not working right..... trying to dispell the bubbles and the CCs ( dispeling partner and i from frost nova with massdispel doesnt dispel us at all).. FIX THESE BUGS please!

[Comrade]

2. Power word shield= This spell is not stacking with spell power to increase amount absorbed, thats why it absorbs little damage.
6. Mass Dispell= This spell does not remove the buffs that are normally undispellable. It should be removing iceblock/divine shield.

These really need fixing, especially the mass dispell one.

[Breea]

Reflective shield is fixed. Tested it on a few rogues.

[fezix]

http://www.wowhead.com/?spell=64044 Psychic Horror doesnt disarm the target.

But please, alteast fix Mass Dispell, its probly the most powerful priests spell, really need to be fixed.