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infuse
post Jul 13 2009, 01:13 AM
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I wanted a battle ground that would look like : http://wiki.guildwars.com/wiki/The_Hall_of_Heroes_(arena)
In guild wars . Because it's a very exciting fight with lots of strategies to take , like gank , snaring the relic carrier , wiping the ennemy team , piking the flag .
I realise that guild wars is guild wars , and wow is wow , and doing the same thing as there is difficult . So i'll remaster it for wow xD .

So here is what i wanted to do :




He is how it works :
- There's 3 teams of 8/10 ppl .
- They have to carry an object ( like a flag ) to the center of the map . Each flag give 1point to your team .
>There should be a timer , so the team that have carryed the much flags have win , OR , the team that reachs a XX number of flag wins .
>As you have to return a flag , it won't be that easy like " the faster wins " , no , because there's two team versus you that wants to win too .
-Each team spawn in a spawn zone ( obviously ... ) that is at the same distance to the place where you have to return the flag .
-The flag will be spawned somewhere near from each teams spawn .
-There's a respawn place for each team inside their base , every 2minutes , all team members that died respawn ( as it is far , it is dangerous )
- Rez and teamwork will be a key for this battleground .
- For countering any bubble or else , we should put the flag near from the place were you have to get the flag so the pally will not be able to use it everytime .
- For grouping , maybe we could make our own raid group . Or maybe a random group . Or the twice !

As for the rewards :
- I'd say a chest where you get random items ( mounts , trinket , piece of armor , minipets , things to do a party ) including tokkens and money . There would be a little chance to get a good item .
- I would like to add a tittle when you win this Bg , like salty , so ppl that have won 100x time this bg gets a tittle , and ppl that have won 1000x time this bg have a uber tittle .
- for the winning team , i'd say giving money would be cool ... Even if i don't think it'll be usefull .
- about the yellow team , as it is between the others area , it would be fine to give 'hem a advantage like being much near to the place where you have to return the flag .
- For the bridges between each areas , we could easely find a solution , like putting a barrier , or placing the teams and the flags further , so there will be a split possibiblity .
- If there's a class that have too much advantage on this map , maybe we could do a speel that gives a disadvantage on some sides of the class so they won't be dominant .


Since we'll surely have more and more players , a new bg would be fun , and i'm getting tired of doing av , arena , if ...
I would like to turn this Bg as a bg that ppl do for it's tittle and it's rare items . So there will be like groups that look only for the 4st ranked of + players .

This will be as hard a an instance , because you play versus real players , they can one shot you when they're focused , so there will be healers and organisation needed . I'm sure horde will loose everytime xD .

Some of it's impact on the server :
- Skills and teamwork will make you win in this BG . So the server will have a status of real pvp server , wich no any server have , because their pvp system is too simple .
- This will be the 3rd custom BG in the server as the number of players raise AV will not be able to take all of those without having lot of QQ about random stuff .
- This is a BG even blizzard didn't think about , and it's an advantage versus retail server , privates server won't be just alternative , they'll be better than retail .

I'm sorry for my english .
I know it's just a dream , but just talking about it makes me feel good .
Yeah i fail , sorry .
Have a good day biggrin.gif .


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post Jul 13 2009, 02:22 AM
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The main problem with what you done here is the fact that Exodar isn't classified as an arena like Nagrand Arena, so creating a 10v10v10 experience is supremely difficult in this case. Although it -is- possible to go into the database and eventually code the area of Exodar into that, its not an easy task.

Despite Opti being as amazing as he is, I highly doubt he'd would have the time to do something as time consuming and sometimes frustrating. You have a good idea, don't get me wrong, but right now, we've already got Ironforge, and frankly, you should be happy with that for now.

Fixing spells and such is probably one of the top things on the list right now. Although I may not speak for Opti, he might take this into consideration, considering it is a good idea and maybe an extra treat in the future.


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post Jul 13 2009, 02:25 AM
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Thanks smile.gif .

Bleh , i hope opti will take it for later then ^^ .
We can transform exodar as we did for ironforge ... But yeah , 10vs10vs10 is another thing hard to do .


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post Jul 13 2009, 04:29 AM
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where would the third 10 team come from


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post Jul 13 2009, 06:06 AM
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I'm assuming you wish this to be Free for All?
If so,then I have bad news for you.
To change a map from Alliance Controlled to free for all would require a content patch.So this will not be possible.


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post Jul 13 2009, 12:17 PM
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We can't change it as an arena with 3groups and a goal ?

You just get teleported you and your group there , everyone exept your group is hostile ...
Or maybe the problem is with the flag system ?

( juxti look closer =.= )


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post Jul 13 2009, 04:02 PM
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After seeing how ironforge kinda failed in the fun factor, i dislike the fact people use the main cities for PvP, its just too big!

id recormend a bit of closer area


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post Jul 13 2009, 11:52 PM
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I think it would be better if it was more like a king of the hill type thing, because it would just turn into a flag rush. rogues would win 24/7.


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post Jul 13 2009, 11:55 PM
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QUOTE (infuse @ Jul 12 2009, 10:25 PM) *
Thanks smile.gif .

Bleh , i hope opti will take it for later then ^^ .
We can transform exodar as we did for ironforge ... But yeah , 10vs10vs10 is another thing hard to do .

10vs10vs10 is hard to do i was a GameMaster i did alot of that stuff little hard to do just make it horde vs alliance simple and easy to do ad rewards such as quests win sertain amount of matches you get a coin to get deadly gear or maybe just not the main deadly gear like no wepones and the set just bracers rings and ect. Maybe make orgrimar into one because we already have a alliance make a horde do the same thing and it would be cool dont do thunder bluff or UC its to big just org. And maybe i dont know third 10 team would be gaurds lol npc in the middle but there strongish 150k hp?Maybe a respawn rate of 3minuts.

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post Jul 13 2009, 11:56 PM
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i extremely agree with this topic this would be a REALLY fun game for battling


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post Jul 14 2009, 01:48 AM
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we should in all case keep the 3teams of players sytem and the map , as for it's way to play , we can look how to do it .

It won't beat AV because grouping would be hard and would need time and patience .


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post Jul 24 2009, 11:18 PM
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I recommend you put this BG in to an area that already is free for all. : P
soooo yah.


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post Jul 25 2009, 12:31 AM
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QUOTE (Atalarion @ Jul 25 2009, 12:18 AM) *
I recommend you put this BG in to an area that already is free for all. : P
soooo yah.


Wadja mean ? Using another map ? ohmy.gif

Nvm , it's hopeless , they'll debug first , even if it's impossible xD . the meta game is stable for me now O-o , debugging things one after another will distrub the meta game .


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post Nov 5 2009, 11:24 PM
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Its a very good idea and will be strategic (although i thinkl crabslapper is right). the problem is that when you do this it is possible to actually change it to free for all, i was on a private server that did this but they really up patched because they would have to rescript again and the information for this kinda scripting is much harder to get and way more complicated, another thing is that it was all that the sever was really about.
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post Nov 6 2009, 02:15 AM
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QUOTE (Ice Hawk @ Nov 6 2009, 01:24 AM) *
Its a very good idea and will be strategic (although i thinkl crabslapper is right). the problem is that when you do this it is possible to actually change it to free for all, i was on a private server that did this but they really up patched because they would have to rescript again and the information for this kinda scripting is much harder to get and way more complicated, another thing is that it was all that the sever was really about.



Leave the idea of a ffa ... Just transform it into a BG . There would be 3maps King of the hill, capture the flag, and kill'hem all with a random isignation for each team so there won't be premeditation. I'm not against transforming it into king of the hill taugh.

Doing it like ironforge would be good, even if ironforge failed, because there would be 2 differences :

- Organised groups, with a limit of players.
- 1 altar per base and a main altar in the middle on the battle will only occur in the middle exept if there's a split. So the players won't bother searching wath altar to get.


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